{"id":14593,"date":"2013-10-01T09:48:43","date_gmt":"2013-10-01T13:48:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/?p=14593"},"modified":"2013-10-01T09:48:43","modified_gmt":"2013-10-01T13:48:43","slug":"welcome-to-the-government-shutdown","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/2013\/10\/01\/welcome-to-the-government-shutdown\/","title":{"rendered":"Welcome To The Government Shutdown"},"content":{"rendered":"

McClatchy DC<\/em> has the story Government starts shutting down<\/strong><\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cYou cannot negotiate when you take hostages and extort,\u201d Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. said. \u201cWe\u2019re happy to negotiate. There\u2019s a budget. They can talk about spending for (Obamacare) in the budget. You don\u2019t do it this way.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Refusing to negotiate with people taking hostages sounds more like a Republican stance.<\/p>\n

The article also states the following:<\/p>\n

As the clock ticked toward deadline, the House tried a new tactic, voting 228-199 in the early morning hours Tuesday to set up direct negotiations with the Senate by appointing a team of budget negotiators called \u201cconferees\u201d to work with Senate counterparts in the coming days. The Senate flatly rejected that proposal before leaving the Capitol.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe like to resolve issues,\u201d said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. \u201cBut we will not go to conference with a gun to our head.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Earlier on I had been wondering why they just didn’t go to conference with the two bills and hold the standoff in the conference committee rather than include the entirety of both houses of Congress.<\/p>\n

The House vote of 228 to 199 or an earlier vote of 228 to 201 shows how little it would have taken to get an agreement.\u00a0 With a clean continuing resolution and no changes of position the vote could have been 201 to 228.\u00a0 If 14 Republicans could have changed position, the whole thing would have been resolved.<\/p>\n

I know, you could have made the reverse argument about the vote in the Senate.\u00a0 Somehow, after losing two Presidential elections over this issue, you might have expected the Republicans to at least give the new idea a shot by at least agreeing to try it out for a while.\u00a0 They might have given some thought to the possibility that they were wrong.\u00a0 A tryout period for Obamacare might have provided some more evidence of who was more right and who was more wrong.<\/p>\n

During the Bush administration, the Democrats gave in to some wacky Republican ideas which ended up doing more harm to the country than Obamacare ever could.\u00a0 Maybe the lesson is that the Democrats should have tried harder to thwart Bush.<\/p>\n

If the American people cannot come together enough to at least try something to solve our problems, then we may be seeing the end of the American era in history.\u00a0 Maybe that would be a good thing.\u00a0 Should we try some good, old-fashioned capitalistic creative destruction on our political system?\u00a0 After all, what could possibly go wrong with that?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

McClatchy DC has the story Government starts shutting down. \u201cYou cannot negotiate when you take hostages and extort,\u201d Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. said. \u201cWe\u2019re happy to negotiate. There\u2019s a budget. They can talk about spending for (Obamacare) in the budget. You don\u2019t do it this way.\u201d Refusing to negotiate with people taking hostages sounds more […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[166],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-14593","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-stevegsposts","7":"czr-hentry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14593","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14593"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14593\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14594,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14593\/revisions\/14594"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14593"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14593"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14593"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}