{"id":15609,"date":"2013-12-26T15:23:29","date_gmt":"2013-12-26T20:23:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/?p=15609"},"modified":"2013-12-26T15:23:29","modified_gmt":"2013-12-26T20:23:29","slug":"on-florida-in-2000-and-what-to-do-next","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/2013\/12\/26\/on-florida-in-2000-and-what-to-do-next\/","title":{"rendered":"On Florida in 2000 and What to Do Next"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>The Real News Network<\/em> has part 3 of the Nader series &#8211; <a title=\"The Real News Network video\" href=\"http:\/\/therealnews.com\/t2\/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=31&amp;Itemid=74&amp;jumival=11231\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>On Florida in 2000 and What to Do Next &#8211; Ralph Nader on Reality Asserts Itself (3\/3)<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>NADER: You see, here&#8217;s the point, Paul. We&#8217;ve got to get over this. We&#8217;ve got to basically say everyone&#8217;s got a right to run. Everybody&#8217;s going to try to get votes from one another. Therefore, everyone&#8217;s either a spoiler of one another or none of them are spoilers of one another. They called me a spoiler in 2000 after Bush stole the election all the way to the Supreme Court. I mean, I would think he&#8217;s a mega spoiler of the Democratic Party. But no, they basically have a political bigotry that don&#8217;t you dare challenge the Democratic Party, no matter how corporatized and indentured it is, from the left in the electoral arena. Well, you can write editorials for The Nation, you know, you can pick at the White House, but don&#8217;t get real serious.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/onmrRlkLAjM?rel=0\" style=\"border thick #009900\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<pre>\r\n<\/pre>\n<p>In 2000, I was definitely one of those liberals who shunned Ralph Nader.  You can see in this video interview how hard it is for Paul Jay to come to terms with what Nader is saying even now.  So, lately since about 2004, I have come at least as far as what Ralph Nader said in part 2 of this series &#8211; At least we can go after the Democrats in the primaries.  <\/p>\n<p>I am experiencing my own min-Nader situation trying to convince fellow &#8220;progressives&#8221; that it is good policy to hold a Democratic politician&#8217;s feet to the fire in a primary.  Don&#8217;t announce before they even run that despite all the bad things you know about their policies that you are going to support them no matter what.  Didn&#8217;t your parents (or someone) ever teach you how to negotiate?<\/p>\n<p>See the previous parts of this interview at my blog posts &#8211; <\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/2013\/12\/19\/mccarthyism-made-us-veer-away-from-a-systemic-doctrine-for-change-ralph-nader-on-rai-13\/\" title=\"Previous Post\" target=\"_blank\">McCarthyism Made Us Veer Away From a Systemic Doctrine for Change \u2013 Ralph Nader on RAI (1\/3)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/2013\/12\/26\/are-nader-like-reforms-still-possible\/\" title=\"Previous Post\" target=\"_blank\">Are Nader-Like Reforms Still Possible? \u2013 Ralph Nader on Reality Asserts Itself (2\/3)<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Real News Network has part 3 of the Nader series &#8211; On Florida in 2000 and What to Do Next &#8211; Ralph Nader on Reality Asserts Itself (3\/3). NADER: You see, here&#8217;s the point, Paul. We&#8217;ve got to get over this. We&#8217;ve got to basically say everyone&#8217;s got a right to run. Everybody&#8217;s going [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[166],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-15609","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-stevegsposts","7":"czr-hentry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15609","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15609"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15609\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15610,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15609\/revisions\/15610"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15609"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15609"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15609"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}