{"id":29209,"date":"2021-10-19T11:04:57","date_gmt":"2021-10-19T15:04:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/?p=29209"},"modified":"2021-10-19T11:04:57","modified_gmt":"2021-10-19T15:04:57","slug":"jim-chanos-chinas-leveraged-prosperity-model-is-doomed-and-thats-not-the-worst","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/2021\/10\/19\/jim-chanos-chinas-leveraged-prosperity-model-is-doomed-and-thats-not-the-worst\/","title":{"rendered":"Jim Chanos: China\u2019s \u201cLeveraged Prosperity\u201d Model is Doomed. And That\u2019s Not the Worst"},"content":{"rendered":"

Naked Capitalism <\/em>has the article Jim Chanos: China\u2019s \u201cLeveraged Prosperity\u201d Model is Doomed. And That\u2019s Not the Worst<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\nJim Chanos: In 2013, we put a slide in our presentation for investors and talks that was very controversial \u2013 especially for Chinese nationals. It showed President Xi Jinping in emperor\u2019s garb. People thought we should take it out, that it was offensive. At the time, Xi was widely seen as just the latest in a series of technocrats who had risen through the ranks \u2014 one who would follow along with Deng Xiaoping\u2019s reforms. It\u2019s \u201ccapitalism with Chinese characteristics.\u201d It\u2019s okay to get rich as long as the country prospers.<\/p>\n

But a few things made us think, no, this guy is different. His first speech in China after becoming president was critical of the Soviet Union for being soft on perestroika. They should have crushed it when they had the chance, he said. Xi then set up an institute to study the Soviet Union\u2019s collapse. That was a red flag to us that he was going to be more hardline than people thought. He went on to do an anti-corruption drive, which people dismissed as a typical settling of scores that Chinese leaders do. But it actually extended beyond that. A couple of years later, he began talking in Puritanical terms about social issues. Again, that was different. Nobody had cared about that stuff for 20 years. Do what you want as long as you don\u2019t question the party. Next, we had the book collecting his speeches and writings, which people could be seen carrying around. He started showing up in military events dressed in Mao jackets. This symbolism isn\u2019t lost in China.<\/p>\n

We noticed all this, but the real switch occurred in 2019 when he started going after celebrities like Jack Ma [co-founder of Alibaba]. At that point, it was clear that this president was not stepping down at the end of 10 years. He was taking a much harder line on the \u201cflowers of capitalism,\u201d if you will, than past presidents. In 2021, all of this exploded into the open. There\u2019s been initiative after initiative. Redistributing wealth to the masses. Going after other leaders. Overlaid on top of this is the Evergrande saga.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here was my reaction to the post.<\/p>\n

\nWhy not ask Michael Hudson what he thinks? Chanos has a distinctly western view about everything China. Michael Hudson has a more inside view. I think it has been MMTer Steve Keen who has been concerned about private debt in China for many years. For a while, I didn\u2019t realize his concern was strictly about private debt, not government debt. Chanos does not recognize that the increasing USA belligerence may be driving China\u2019s reaction. He doesn\u2019t realize that China\u2019s crackdown on private capitalists may be an attempt to avoid the mistakes of the USA. You can always put a western perspective on everything happening in China. It is just possible that the Chinese perspective might be the more realistic one. I certainly don\u2019t know for sure what the future holds. Michael Hudson would certainly have a better perspective than I have.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Naked Capitalism has the article Jim Chanos: China\u2019s \u201cLeveraged Prosperity\u201d Model is Doomed. And That\u2019s Not the Worst. Jim Chanos: In 2013, we put a slide in our presentation for investors and talks that was very controversial \u2013 especially for Chinese nationals. It showed President Xi Jinping in emperor\u2019s garb. People thought we should take […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[166],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-29209","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-stevegsposts","7":"czr-hentry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29209","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29209"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29209\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29210,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29209\/revisions\/29210"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29209"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29209"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ssgreenberg.name\/PoliticsBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29209"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}