Andrew Bacevich: Washington in Wonderland, Down the Iraq Rabbit Hole (Again) 4


Naked Capitalism has the article Andrew Bacevich: Washington in Wonderland, Down the Iraq Rabbit Hole (Again).

You really have to read the article to see how the putting together of seemingly logical and small steps can lead to an illogical non-strategy. However, I know many of you can’t take the time to read the article, so I’ll give you some pieces that probably will mislead you from the gist of the article.

But first, I’ll give you my conclusion. If you can’t figure out what to do to fix a problem, and everything you can think to do will make the problem worse, then the only logical action is to do nothing. When people urge you to “don’t just stand there, do something” keep reminding them that anything you can think to do rather than just standing there will only make matters worse. Why do people insist that we make matters worse? What is the logic to that?

In describing one small step in the chain of illogic that he was describing, Bacevich said the following:

AT-4s blowing up those Humvees — with fingers crossed that the anti-tank weapons don’t also fall into the hands of ISIS militants — illustrates in microcosm the larger madness of Washington’s policies concealed by the superficial logic of each immediate situation.

In discussing a conversation that was on a PBS News Hour, Bacevich made the following points:

So what the former secretary of defense, think tank CEO, and retired general chose not to say in fretting about ISIS is as revealing as what they did say. Here are some of the things they chose to overlook:

* ISIS would not exist were it not for the folly of the United States in invading — and breaking — Iraq in the first place; we created the vacuum that ISIS is now attempting to fill.

* U.S. military efforts to pacify occupied Iraq from 2003 to 2011 succeeded only in creating a decent interval for the United States to withdraw without having to admit to outright defeat; in no sense did “our” Iraq War end in anything remotely approximating victory, despite the already forgotten loss of thousands of American lives and the expenditure of trillions of dollars.

* For more than a decade and at very considerable expense, the United States has been attempting to create an Iraqi government that governs and an Iraqi army that fights; the results of those efforts speak for themselves: they have failed abysmally.

Now, these are facts. Acknowledging them might suggest a further conclusion: that anyone proposing ways for Washington to put things right in Iraq ought to display a certain sense of humility. The implications of those facts — behind which lies a policy failure of epic proportions — might even provide the basis for an interesting discussion on national television. But that would assume a willingness to engage in serious self-reflection. This, the culture of Washington does not encourage, especially on matters related to basic national security policy.

Just to boost my ratings, I’ll embed the panel discussion below. Bacevich, in his article, admits that his contribution to this discussion was too weak and ineffective, and failed to make the points he made in the article.

Here is the blurb that went along with the above video.

The White House has announced it will send more troops to fight the Islamic State group in Iraq. To discuss the multi-front war with the militants, Judy Woodruff talks to Michèle Flournoy of the Center for a New American Security, retired Col. Andrew Bacevich of Boston University, former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and retired Gen. Anthony Zinni, former commander of the U.S. Central Command.


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4 thoughts on “Andrew Bacevich: Washington in Wonderland, Down the Iraq Rabbit Hole (Again)

  • SteveG Post author

    I don’t think it is isolationist to say we should just get out of there when everything we have done so far to get in there has caused more problems than we solved. If we actually had a good plan to solve the problem, then I would be for getting in there.

    Everyone on the panel admitted that the current Iraqi government and its inability to include Sunnis in a coalition is the problem. We have plenty of examples of the harm we cause by overturning governments elected by the people. So if we can’t convince that government to take some advice, and we have been trying for 10 or more years to give that advice, maybe it is time to step back and do nothing.

  • Marden Seavey

    Iran is the real stabilizing force over there. It makes total sense as Andrew Bacevich says to let them handle the situation, let them take on ISIS. Of course it’s not simple even in this case but for god’s sake we should just forget it before we make more trouble and get out of there. My hidden isolationist finally coming out of me, from circa 1935, LOL.

  • SteveG Post author

    Marden,

    As administrator of this blog, when I approved your comment, I wished there had been a button to “Approve wholeheartedly” not just “approve”.

    The United States is just so adamant in refusing to recognize a country whose interests align with ours on certain important issues. We try our hardest to push them away and make them our enemy. Maybe this is part of the Alice In Wonderland syndrome. I wonder which of those pills our citizens have swallowed recently that is causing our hallucinations?

  • Marden Seavey

    Wow, what a hard time Andrew Bacevich had with that group. To suggest we work with Iran really blew their minds. They’re all, except Bacevich, under the sway of the Israeli’s and right wing, even “moderate”, media in this country. Iran has never invaded another country. What’s all this paranoia about Iran? Bacevich is totally right in my opinion.