The Real News Network has the interview The Nina Turner Show: No Is Not Enough with Naomi Klein,

At the 2017 People’s Summit, Naomi Klein explains why fighting Trump requires political imagination.

Naomi Klein has a very important message that goes beyond resistance. She makes the point that I often mention that you cannot beat something with nothing. If you want to win power, you need to have a positive vision of what you want to build instead of what exists that you oppose.

I made this point in a post in June of 2011, The White House Needs a Real Jobs Plan.

As I have tried to make it clear to Democratic politicians before, you cannot beat something with nothing. Rather than merely explain what is wrong with the Republican plan, the Democrats have to come up with an obviously better plan. If they have an obviously better plan, they don’t even have to talk about the Republican’s plan. Staying positive was a lesson that Obama taught us all in his campaign for the Presidency.