The Real News Network has the interview Growing Up Privileged in Apartheid, Colonial Israel – Shir Hever on Reality Asserts Itself (1/5).
Mr. Hever says he became politically active after the Second Intifada was repressed with extreme violence by the Israeli military and police – July 9, 2014
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The discussion of some history in around 1920 in Israel, I found particularly interesting. This history contradicts a response I got from a comment I made on the Jerusalem Post web site on the article Iron Dome intercepts rocket over central Israel, sirens sound in Tel Aviv.
The response I received was a quote from David Ben Gurion:
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti – Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
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David Ben-Gurion quotes (Polish born Israeli Statesman and Prime Minister (1948-53, 1955-63). Chief architect of the state of Israel and revered as Father of the Nation, 1886-1973)
Perhaps mistakenly, I took this as an attempt to connect Hitler and anti-Semitism to the Palestinians’ behavior with regard to Israel.
The Real News Network shows some of the reasons for the Arab residents of what is now Israel to dislike what was being done to them already in the 1920s. This is not part of the story I learned about Israeli history from my family and from my Hebrew school.
On of the concepts mentioned in the video was Hebrew Labor. The previous entry is to the Wikipedia entry on the topic. You can apply as many grains of salt as you apply to anything you read about the middle east. The article seems pretty even handed, but how do I really know what the reality was?
If we could only get passed the who did what to whom in the past, we might be able to get to everyone is a human being now and should be treated as such.
July 10, 2014
Here is the second segment of the interview – Fear and Loathing in Israel – Shir Hever on Reality Asserts Itself (2/5). The title more reflects the interviewers preconceived notions than it does the notions of the interviewee.
The interviewee’s understanding is far more nuanced than the interviewer’s. Perhaps the impact of this interview on Paul Jay will occur later as he has a chance to mull over what he heard. I guess it is too much to expect him to change his point of view while the interview is being conducted.
I think it is too easy to decry the racism of a person who is mortally afraid of an existential threat when you are able to view the situation from the relative safety of living in another country. This is not a defense of the racism, but a statement on being so disingenuous about its existence. Perhaps a minor quibble? However, still one that bothers me.
- Patient:
- It hurts when I touch my toes without bending my knees
- Doctor:
- So, bend your knees.
- Patient:
- Yeah, why didn’t I think of that? You idiot, I am trying to talk about my symptoms, but you only care about making sarcastic remarks.